JD Vance Photo: Screenshot The Joe Rogan Experience
Republican nominee for vice president, Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH), brought the culture wars to a friendly forum on Thursday with a visit to Joe Rogan’s podcast. Vance told Rogan, “I wouldn’t be surprised if me and Trump won just the normal gay guy vote.”
He’s alone in his prediction.
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The unlikely forecast came amid a long and self-satisfying discussion with Rogan on LGBTQ+ issues, from mocking Two-Spirit people to blaming the Nashville shooter’s motives on “radical trans ideology,” which Vance said is something “we should talk more about as a country,” while talking more about it to the country.
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“100%,” Rogan nodded.
The two straight white men were confident in their assessment of all things LGBTQ+, including their belief that “normal” gays “just want to be left the hell alone.”
Vance based his “normal” gays prediction on a text exchange with a “fascinating” Trump Republican political philosopher. “I had no idea he was gay when I first met him,” Vance assured Rogan.
“I’ll never forget, he sent me something, like six or so years ago, and it was Elizabeth Warren, when she was running for president. And she was like, ‘We stand for all nonbinary, Two-Spirit and … all of the like the LGBTI+.’ She was talking about all the plus,” Vance recounted.
“And he’s like, ‘I don’t know what the hell Two-Spirit is! We just want to be left the hell alone!” The two men got a big, knowing laugh out of that one. Two-Spirits are tribal Native American religious leaders and teachers believed to have the spirits of both a man and a woman within them.
Rogan replied, “Well, a lot of gay guys feel like the whole movement is homophobic, which is ironic, because they think there’s people that think there’s something wrong with being gay. So, what you really are is a girl.”
“Yes,” Vance agreed emphatically, evoking late nights in dorm rooms when someone’s got cocaine and everybody has all the answers.
“These thoughts are being given to gay kids,” Rogan said, self-assuredly. “These kids would just grow up to be gay men, and instead, you’re getting them to convert their gender.”
“And it’s profitable, which is terrifying,” Rogan added.
The overtalk was full of contradictions.
Both men agreed that people who thought the assassination attempt on Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania was staged were crazy, but then pointed to the shooter being cremated 10 days later and the absence of a manifesto as evidence of something nefarious.
“The only time we don’t get a manifesto is when they’re trans. When they’re trans, they hide those manifestos,” Rogan said laughing uproariously at his observation.
“Have you read any of it?” Rogan asked Vance.
“I’ve read some of it,” Vance promised.
“It’s pretty wild.”
“It’s pretty wild.”
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